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Category:Hacker conventions

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:12, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Hacker convention redirects to computer security conference, so until that changes, this should be a single category. In any case currently the two categories are being used interchangeably. The merger should be this way around because it's currently the parent, and also because "hacker" is ambiguous. ··gracefool 💬 22:24, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Idol (Swedish TV series) by year

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I believe these categories should all be deleted as there is no need to categorise contestants by each year. Each contestant is already in Category:Idol (Swedish TV series) participants, and each season is already in Category:Idol (Swedish TV series), as well as the appropriate subcategory of Category:Years in Swedish television. There may also be presenters and/or judges categorised in these, and they shouldn't be included per WP:PERFCAT. I haven't seen any other TV series with categories like these, other than those with several episodes, but certainly not any talent shows. So for those reasons, these categories should be deleted. anemoneprojectors 18:13, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Drew Holcomb and The Neighbors albums

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:12, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category for one album? Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:33, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:7th century in Iraq

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as proposed. -- Tavix (talk) 00:21, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Obviously the "7th century in Iraq" category is a twin of the "Iraq under the Umayyad Caliphate" category and historically speaking we should refrain from anachronism (saying simply Iraq is automatically referring to modern Iraq). The people of Umayyad province of Iraq were obviously Umayyad by nationality.GreyShark (dibra) 13:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I know, but their rename/merger is more complicated due to change of rule over area of what is now Iraq.GreyShark (dibra) 11:02, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe Category:8th-century Umayyad Caliphate people (not to confuse with the Umayyad ruling dynasty themselves)?Though considering Saudi people article, this is not necessary.GreyShark (dibra) 16:43, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Agree.GreyShark (dibra) 07:52, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The proposed categories refer to a part or province (?) of the Umayyad Caliphate which lasted from 661 CE to 750 CE and eventually extended as far as the Iberian Peninsula (Al-Andalus), North Africa and the Black, Caspian and Aral Seas (but not Tabaristan). Hence it would be better to regard the existing “Iran” categories as subcategories of “Umayyad” categories. There are already categories Category:7th-century Umayyad caliphs and Category:8th-century Umayyad caliphs which chould also be subcategories of 7th-century and 8th-century Umayyad people categories. The same comments would apply to the Abbasid Caliphate (758 CE to 1258 CE) as presumably similar proposals will be made for later centuries. Hugo999 (talk) 01:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC) PS: My Penguin Atlas of Medieval History by Colin McEvedy says for AD 1028 that "From the peak of success the Umayyad Caliphate of Spain rapidly descended into oblivion. Civil war between Arabs and Berbers became endemic, and though the Caliphate lingered on till 1031 it was an impotent spectator." Later of Córdoba not Spain. The map shows it in the middle of the peninsula, surrounded by the Arab and Berber Emirates and the Kingdoms of Leon and Navarre. Hugo999 (talk) 11:05, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Ummayad Iraq specifically refers to a province of the Umayyad Caliphate. I'm not sure whether Iran was an Umayyad province as well, or was partitioned between Umayyad Iraq or Umayyad Khurasan.GreyShark (dibra) 07:52, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Zenit Boyarka

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The result of the discussion was: delete both. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Article was recently moved to Zenit Boyarka, so renaming is not eligible for speedy processing. The parent category is unnecessary as it holds only the players category and a stub article about the team. – Fayenatic London 11:11, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Preserve. The move was not discussed with creator of the article. Zenit Boyarka is a sports school rather than just a football club. The argument about parent category being unnecessary does not make sense to me. It is created for easier navigation and creates link to other related articles. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 13:58, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Water development and sustainability

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Water and the environment. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, it is not clear how the category differentiates from its parent. Water resource management is the main article of both categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:British anti-capitalists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:07, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: How does an anti-capitalist differ from a socialist or a marxist? Alligators1974 (talk) 02:49, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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